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The Hot Sass Tour
The Hot Sass Tour
Where did the concept of “hot sass” come from, and how did it become the central focus of your record?
It’s something that scares me. It’s another part of myself that I’d never really show. It’s something that pushes me that goes hand in hand with me not hiding behind a band’s name anymore. It is this other side of me, this wild side.
I feel like it is this madness that I’ve been more comfortable with accepting and like, this fucking attitude that I do possess that I’ve been hiding from. It’s this confidence and sexiness, it’s something that I’ve always been very afraid of. It’s me learning about what kind of woman I am and It’s not pretty all the time. It’s not this thing that you can put in a box. I’m inspired by women who speak their mind, and who don’t give a fuck what people think about them.
There’s a sense of restlessness that carries across the record, and right after you finished it, you left Nashville for New York. How did that feeling make its way into the songs?
A big thing about touring is how you’re not really able to reflect, you’re just so in the moment all the time, and you’re always surrounded by people. I am an introvert, and I feel like I have to refuel by being by myself, which is literally impossible when you’re on the road. I was exhausted. But I think it’s also a lot of growth and just learning about myself and trying to be confident. I’ve always struggled with my confidence and self worth, and facing that.
What was your approach with beginning to write Hot Sass? Where were you trying to push yourself musically?
Really what the beginning of it was, was, very organically and naturally, I met Benny Yurco, who is a fucking creative genius. I just texted him one day, and I was like, “I want to make a record with you.” And he was like, “Let’s do it.” So really that was the beginning push for me to be creating with an artist that I really respected. I knew I had to really bring it for him and for myself.
I wrote this album on the road and any chance I could find, so in between soundcheck and the show, I would hide in the van, or I would write in motel bathrooms. Whenever I’d get home for however long, which is not usually very long, I would just dive in and write.
As soon as we got to Benny’s, it was this complete safe haven. All of us trust each other so much, and we let our guards down completely. We flew through recording these songs and tracked the drums, the bass, guitar, and vocals all live. There was no intention besides just making the best song and without any ego.
You spent a few years touring pretty heavily, even by a lot of musicians’ standards, and you recorded most of Hot Sass live as a group. How has it been going without that kind of in-person energy for the last year or so?
This is the longest I’ve gone without playing music my entire life. It’s been really important for me, because music is my spirituality and my release, and I’ve never not had it. To take that away has been a total withdrawal, and an incredible emotional roller coaster to be in an unfamiliar city with that.
It affected me a lot. I know that I needed that break, because it made me learn more about myself: “Okay, well, if I can’t just chase this thing all the time, who am I without music? I’m still learning.”
What has picking up painting meant to you over the last few years?
I’ve just been finding my voice with it just like music. And I definitely have ideas of how I want to push boundaries with it. It’s just another way to expose my insides which scares me but also makes me feel whole and healed. I love to paint because I don’t feel any pressure from myself or from anyone else. It’s just fun and it’s pure. Purely expressive. If I make something that is horrifying and super shitty, I don’t care. You move on, and you learn from it. And that’s it. Daniel [Yocum] is the one that really made me fall back in love with it. We push each other, and we’re gonna do some collaborations with visual art beyond videos, see what we can dream up in the painting world.
What do you most want to get across with this record?
I’m not sure if there’s anything specifically that I’m aiming to get across. I’m still processing these songs. Still reflecting. And I think that’s the thing — Hot Sass is just a stamp in time of what was happening in my life. I just want to continue making art that displays myself, the moments, and the people around me.